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I’m not sticking up for Patterico (as I believe he has been hacked) but I do think it is curious that Ron himself hasn’t requested Mike’s, Lee’s, or any other relevant documents. Ron is a good researcher, I think he can get to the bottom of this. Maybe the detectives would hear Ron out? It’s worth a try.
Also, I am pretty sure Ron’s voice sounds nothing like the voice on the swat calls. I think Ron should make a Youtube video of himself reading the lyrics to ELO’s “Mr Blue Sky” to punk the hoaxers, hackers , and liars that lurk about. #agitprop
Where is the audio of the SWAT call?
I had it up on this site but took it down. I am doing some work on the site today/tonite and will have it back up.
I didn’t get the police report because — seriously — I lost interest. It became unfun.
It wasn’t anything Andrew was interested in. It causes fights with Patricia and Liberty. And Dustin and other people. Dealing with Ron made me want to stab myself in the eye with a hot poker. It wasn’t interesting or helpful to my life. Nobody was interested in the Jennifer George angle. So, whatever. I did other stuff.
I’m curious as to what the police report says but I assume it won’t say much. And it’d take a couple of weeks to get there.
Gotcha. I will give a heads up when I receive the report.
Despite the point where I disagreed earlier, Mike’s making some good points. It’s frustrating to me, so I can only imagine it’s extremely frustrating to Mike, that we haven’t gotten any real results by now.
And I understand where Mike’s coming from to say he was foolish to trust information to people he shouldn’t have. On the other hand, I understand where Mike’s coming from to be irritated if he didn’t get the info he needed (even if that’s a misunderstanding, as it appears to be with respect to the Alicia Pain threats).
I feel the exact same contradiction Mike has expressed. Mike doesn’t know who the hell he can trust, he’s frustrated to resolve this crime and expose some smear merchants, and he’s frustrated people aren’t trusting him or treating him the way his efforts would require them to.
That’s why I’d rather resolve fights than fight fights. And I say that as someone who has failed to live up to that (for example, when I fought Lee Stranahan, but not just then). When I think that this fight threw a wrench in the machine of Patrick and Lee resolving JGMA, I feel sick to my stomach. I realize this is probably over-reaction, but still, the fight is against the smear artists over yonder… not their various victims who are sometimes manipulated into fighting eachother (and sometimes organically doing so).
Didnt Patterico…and maybe the other recipients put that AP threat letter on his/their blog? I have a dim memory of seeing the header, and know it wasn’t some private communication.
I thought the threat ought to be punished, myself, but that ‘s in addition to thinking the threat stupid (and as to outcome – unlikely to get more punishment than 20 hours of community service with verdict of guilt taken under advisement and dismissed, if punished at all, because ap is likely just some pathetic nut.
If I had better things to do with my time and some anonynymity to protect, and the PD telegraphed not much would happen, I think I’d skip the troll doxing opportunity for a relaxing pudding dip and a fresh hobo haunch. ymmv.
I thought about splashing out for a JGMA police report, but since it would come redacted I didnt bother.
I was sorry Jen Preston didn’t dig. Little bit, but by then I believe she thought anonymous- type shenanigans were afoot nd it wasn’t worth followup as Weiner was proved a skeev independent of any plot to get him, and that’s all she wrote.
Mike – did you not send away for a copy back then either? Thornton iirc was exceedingly hostile and unhelpful to P. – said he wouldn’t even speak to the FBI.
Are you for real?
Go take your dim memory and your kneejerk defense for the psychic Patterico somewhere else or start being honest.
same old Ron.
Sarah, you’re right. Patterico posted the entire email with the headers.
“If these “threatening” Alicia Pain” emails were enough to write posts after post about, why wasn’t I given the opportunity (or offered) to see the originals (or screen caps, if scared of headers being run).”"
http://patterico.com/2011/06/23/mail-i-get-mail/
The full original email, with header.
It’s unfortunate if the police didn’t take this seriously enough.
Sara, Dustin and anyone else who comes to speak for cowardly Patterico and leave spin control comments while they know Mike is sleeping,
That is not the same thing as forwarding the email or taking a screencap of it. That is not evidence you can take to the police.
It could be bogus, since Patterico has lied about many things the last ten months.
No one should always trust content from Patterico.
Why aren’t you asking him if he ever reported the Alicia Pain email after he was allegedly swatted and why he won’t give the names of any detectives in California working on this case when he told his readers that his role was to bring law enforcement agencies together?
I have no problem with comments here. But Sarah has not been a regular and I have always had a good relationship with her. I’m not endorsing or refuting anything anyone says, rather stating my opinion and past experiences of/with her.